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Montag, 30. April 2012
Motorola zoom can play trueColor3D over/und clips in portrait mode
I recently took a coach to Vienna to attend the http://www.3dimensionale.at and found myself sitting next to a zoom 1 user. I showed him the KMQ s3D viewing method on my iPad and we also tried to watch one of the KMQ clips on vimeo.
After many disappointing failed attempts with older Android tablets who always forced video to landscape orientation, I was surprised - the zoom was able to play a portrait video in portrait orientation.
I recently took a coach to Vienna to attend the http://www.3dimensionale.at and found myself sitting next to a zoom 1 user. I showed him the KMQ s3D viewing method on my iPad and we also tried to watch one of the KMQ clips on vimeo.
After many disappointing failed attempts with older Android tablets who always forced video to landscape orientation, I was surprised - the zoom was able to play a portrait video in portrait orientation.
Motorola zoom can play trueColor3D over/und clips in portrait mode
Tags:
3-D,
3D,
Android,
ipad,
ipad3D,
kmq,
motorola,
over/under,
stereoscopic,
tablet,
trueColor3D,
vimeo,
vimeo3D,
zoom
Freitag, 2. März 2012
How to best watch trueColor3D video clips on Android tablets
I recently saw a trueColor3D video on a Samsung Galaxy Tab using the over/under method similar to my iPad experience.
Unfortunately the native Android Apps for vimeo and Youtube both limit playback to landscape videos, so I recommend to use the webBrowser to visit these sites.
And the limitations of framesizes and bandwidth are more strict as on my old iPad1.
There are some videos that play fine on iOS 4.2 but bring an "unknown" error on Android 2.3.x
If anyone knows more about these obscure limits, please tell me more, so I can finetune the presets of trueColor3D.exe
Unfortunately the native Android Apps for vimeo and Youtube both limit playback to landscape videos, so I recommend to use the webBrowser to visit these sites.
And the limitations of framesizes and bandwidth are more strict as on my old iPad1.
There are some videos that play fine on iOS 4.2 but bring an "unknown" error on Android 2.3.x
If anyone knows more about these obscure limits, please tell me more, so I can finetune the presets of trueColor3D.exe
I recently saw a trueColor3D video on a Samsung Galaxy Tab using the over/under method similar to my iPad experience.
Unfortunately the native Android Apps for vimeo and Youtube both limit playback to landscape videos, so I recommend to use the webBrowser to visit these sites.
And the limitations of framesizes and bandwidth are more strict as on my old iPad1.
There are some videos that play fine on iOS 4.2 but bring an "unknown" error on Android 2.3.x
If anyone knows more about these obscure limits, please tell me more, so I can finetune the presets of trueColor3D.exe
Unfortunately the native Android Apps for vimeo and Youtube both limit playback to landscape videos, so I recommend to use the webBrowser to visit these sites.
And the limitations of framesizes and bandwidth are more strict as on my old iPad1.
There are some videos that play fine on iOS 4.2 but bring an "unknown" error on Android 2.3.x
If anyone knows more about these obscure limits, please tell me more, so I can finetune the presets of trueColor3D.exe
How to best watch trueColor3D video clips on Android tablets
Tags:
Android,
galaxy tab,
ipad,
openKMQ,
over/under,
S3D,
samsung,
stereoscopic,
tablet,
trueColor3D,
vimeo,
YouTube,
YT3D
Donnerstag, 16. Juni 2011
ADRI EV stereoscopic music video for iPad and other tablets
Watch this on a tablet device locked to landscape, but oriented to portrait using one of the over/under viewers (KMQ, jpsOneEye or BerezinOneEye).
ADRI EV MUSIC VIDEO (iPad3D over/under) from Thomas Kumlehn on Vimeo.
This video was created with my open source tool trueColor3D
The creator is Gyro Tod for Kimera Productions.
Watch this on a tablet device locked to landscape, but oriented to portrait using one of the over/under viewers (KMQ, jpsOneEye or BerezinOneEye).
ADRI EV MUSIC VIDEO (iPad3D over/under) from Thomas Kumlehn on Vimeo.
This video was created with my open source tool trueColor3D
The creator is Gyro Tod for Kimera Productions.
ADRI EV stereoscopic music video for iPad and other tablets
Tags:
3-D,
ipad,
ipad3D,
kmq,
music video,
openKMQ,
over/under,
stereoscopic,
tablet,
trueColor3D,
vimeo
Mittwoch, 27. April 2011
What is better for viewing on next gen 3DTVs - SBS or OU?
I recently was asked, what method (and format to use) to upload a 3D clip to vimeo.
My answer was :
Let the visitor decide and upload several clips. As a PLUS user simply use your monthly volume to upload one clip per viewing method and then use descriptions to crosslink them.
Edit for the introduction of Apple TV 1080p (March 2012):
You can now use your AppleTV to play vimeo HD/FullHD videos. And again, for most 3DTVs it's best to play over/under squeezed (frame compatible vertcally stacked) .
My answer was :
Let the visitor decide and upload several clips. As a PLUS user simply use your monthly volume to upload one clip per viewing method and then use descriptions to crosslink them.
Variants to upload :
- Keep including an Anaglyph version.
Many viewers still assume anaglyph glasses are the only 3D glasses available.
But please add a title and a cover pic that mentions other variants available and don't forget to mention WHAT filter colors are needed in their anaglyph glasses.. - trueColor3D made my3D layout as 1280x480 or bigger in height,
as 480 is the minimum height for any video on vimeo
and 1280 is the minimum width to grant HD bitrate/quality. - trueColor3D made Over/Under (KMQ) layout to let viewers enjoy all the colors on any LCD and even see an undistorted image with naked eyes.
- trueColor3D made GRilli3D verticalled interleaved layout for use on glasses free iPads
- Please also provide a Download of a 1280x720, frame compatible 3D video.
Please don't use side by side, like most do, but over/under, because the next/better generation of 3DTVs and many 3Dmonitors use passive glasses and the xPol polarization technique.
This cuts vertical res down to 360 per eye anyway and by using SBS, the viewer ends up effectively seeing 640x360 per eye of your content, instead of 1280x360, even when the display itself claims FullHD 1920x1080(2x540).
Edit for the introduction of Apple TV 1080p (March 2012):
You can now use your AppleTV to play vimeo HD/FullHD videos. And again, for most 3DTVs it's best to play over/under squeezed (frame compatible vertcally stacked) .
I recently was asked, what method (and format to use) to upload a 3D clip to vimeo.
My answer was :
Let the visitor decide and upload several clips. As a PLUS user simply use your monthly volume to upload one clip per viewing method and then use descriptions to crosslink them.
Edit for the introduction of Apple TV 1080p (March 2012):
You can now use your AppleTV to play vimeo HD/FullHD videos. And again, for most 3DTVs it's best to play over/under squeezed (frame compatible vertcally stacked) .
My answer was :
Let the visitor decide and upload several clips. As a PLUS user simply use your monthly volume to upload one clip per viewing method and then use descriptions to crosslink them.
Variants to upload :
- Keep including an Anaglyph version.
Many viewers still assume anaglyph glasses are the only 3D glasses available.
But please add a title and a cover pic that mentions other variants available and don't forget to mention WHAT filter colors are needed in their anaglyph glasses.. - trueColor3D made my3D layout as 1280x480 or bigger in height,
as 480 is the minimum height for any video on vimeo
and 1280 is the minimum width to grant HD bitrate/quality. - trueColor3D made Over/Under (KMQ) layout to let viewers enjoy all the colors on any LCD and even see an undistorted image with naked eyes.
- trueColor3D made GRilli3D verticalled interleaved layout for use on glasses free iPads
- Please also provide a Download of a 1280x720, frame compatible 3D video.
Please don't use side by side, like most do, but over/under, because the next/better generation of 3DTVs and many 3Dmonitors use passive glasses and the xPol polarization technique.
This cuts vertical res down to 360 per eye anyway and by using SBS, the viewer ends up effectively seeing 640x360 per eye of your content, instead of 1280x360, even when the display itself claims FullHD 1920x1080(2x540).
Edit for the introduction of Apple TV 1080p (March 2012):
You can now use your AppleTV to play vimeo HD/FullHD videos. And again, for most 3DTVs it's best to play over/under squeezed (frame compatible vertcally stacked) .
What is better for viewing on next gen 3DTVs - SBS or OU?
Tags:
3-D,
3D,
Apple TV,
GRilli3D,
ipad,
kmq,
My3D,
openKMQ video,
OU,
over under,
over/under,
SBS,
side by side,
side-by-side,
stereoscopic,
trueColor3D,
vimeo,
vimeo3D
Samstag, 1. Januar 2011
How to embed over/under clips in your blog posts
For embedding over/under vimeo clips in blog postings, I personally prefer the following settings for my narrow blog layout :
In the src= parameter, edit the options in the vimeo URL to
?title=1&byline=0&portrait=0&color=ffffff
and for the iframe parameters, use these values
width="400" height="650" frameborder="0"
In the src= parameter, edit the options in the vimeo URL to
?title=1&byline=0&portrait=0&color=ffffff
and for the iframe parameters, use these values
width="400" height="650" frameborder="0"
For embedding over/under vimeo clips in blog postings, I personally prefer the following settings for my narrow blog layout :
In the src= parameter, edit the options in the vimeo URL to
?title=1&byline=0&portrait=0&color=ffffff
and for the iframe parameters, use these values
width="400" height="650" frameborder="0"
In the src= parameter, edit the options in the vimeo URL to
?title=1&byline=0&portrait=0&color=ffffff
and for the iframe parameters, use these values
width="400" height="650" frameborder="0"
How to embed over/under clips in your blog posts
Tags:
blog,
clip,
embed,
openKMQ,
over/under,
trueColor3D,
vimeo
First clip made from DualFullHD content available on vimeo in trueColor3D
For my Berlin based friend Paul Stutenbäumer, I converted his demo reel to the new channel on vimeo, using over/under true color stereoscopic viewing instead of legacy anaglyphs.
But I encountered some pitfalls in the vimeo internals.
If you upload a video 768px wide, vimeo ignores the height and assumes it's an SD european clip that needs non square pixel treatment. Fair enough, but this cripples XGA portrait mode clips optimized for iPad use.
And to achieve HD quality bandwidth, a video needs 1280px width or wider. This sucks as well. Again, vimeo ignores the height.
So if you want your clip to be watched on vimeo including iPad users, please use a slighty smaller res of 764px x 1020px and encourage your viewers to download the original video for optimal local play or import to the iPad Photos App.
And please ask vimeo staff to change the policy ignoring height for bandwidth decisions.
But I encountered some pitfalls in the vimeo internals.
If you upload a video 768px wide, vimeo ignores the height and assumes it's an SD european clip that needs non square pixel treatment. Fair enough, but this cripples XGA portrait mode clips optimized for iPad use.
And to achieve HD quality bandwidth, a video needs 1280px width or wider. This sucks as well. Again, vimeo ignores the height.
So if you want your clip to be watched on vimeo including iPad users, please use a slighty smaller res of 764px x 1020px and encourage your viewers to download the original video for optimal local play or import to the iPad Photos App.
And please ask vimeo staff to change the policy ignoring height for bandwidth decisions.
For my Berlin based friend Paul Stutenbäumer, I converted his demo reel to the new channel on vimeo, using over/under true color stereoscopic viewing instead of legacy anaglyphs.
But I encountered some pitfalls in the vimeo internals.
If you upload a video 768px wide, vimeo ignores the height and assumes it's an SD european clip that needs non square pixel treatment. Fair enough, but this cripples XGA portrait mode clips optimized for iPad use.
And to achieve HD quality bandwidth, a video needs 1280px width or wider. This sucks as well. Again, vimeo ignores the height.
So if you want your clip to be watched on vimeo including iPad users, please use a slighty smaller res of 764px x 1020px and encourage your viewers to download the original video for optimal local play or import to the iPad Photos App.
And please ask vimeo staff to change the policy ignoring height for bandwidth decisions.
But I encountered some pitfalls in the vimeo internals.
If you upload a video 768px wide, vimeo ignores the height and assumes it's an SD european clip that needs non square pixel treatment. Fair enough, but this cripples XGA portrait mode clips optimized for iPad use.
And to achieve HD quality bandwidth, a video needs 1280px width or wider. This sucks as well. Again, vimeo ignores the height.
So if you want your clip to be watched on vimeo including iPad users, please use a slighty smaller res of 764px x 1020px and encourage your viewers to download the original video for optimal local play or import to the iPad Photos App.
And please ask vimeo staff to change the policy ignoring height for bandwidth decisions.
First clip made from DualFullHD content available on vimeo in trueColor3D
Tags:
ipad,
ipad3D,
openKMQ,
over/under,
prism viewer,
S3D,
stereoscopic,
trueColor3D,
vimeo,
vimeo3D
Samstag, 30. Oktober 2010
New accounts for twitter and facebook
I've decided to migrate to the new Facebook Group feature.
The new group is called openKMQ3D.
And accordingly I also added a similar twitter account.
The new group is called openKMQ3D.
And accordingly I also added a similar twitter account.
I've decided to migrate to the new Facebook Group feature.
The new group is called openKMQ3D.
And accordingly I also added a similar twitter account.
The new group is called openKMQ3D.
And accordingly I also added a similar twitter account.
New accounts for twitter and facebook
Tags:
3-D,
facebook,
group,
ipad3D,
kmq,
openKMQ,
openKQM3D,
over/under,
S3D,
stereoscopic,
Stereoskopie,
twitter
Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2010
What is the optimum viewing distance for the KMQ prism viewer?
The mirror based over/under 3-D viewers can be manually adjusted to fit most viewing distances.
With the prism viewer KMQ SSG1b, its fixed optical spreading of left/right eyesights (19deg) means that you have to measure the vertical distance of the stereo pair and then multiply by 4.5 to get the optimum viewing distance (paper or screen to viewer).
With the prism viewer KMQ SSG1b, its fixed optical spreading of left/right eyesights (19deg) means that you have to measure the vertical distance of the stereo pair and then multiply by 4.5 to get the optimum viewing distance (paper or screen to viewer).
The mirror based over/under 3-D viewers can be manually adjusted to fit most viewing distances.
With the prism viewer KMQ SSG1b, its fixed optical spreading of left/right eyesights (19deg) means that you have to measure the vertical distance of the stereo pair and then multiply by 4.5 to get the optimum viewing distance (paper or screen to viewer).
With the prism viewer KMQ SSG1b, its fixed optical spreading of left/right eyesights (19deg) means that you have to measure the vertical distance of the stereo pair and then multiply by 4.5 to get the optimum viewing distance (paper or screen to viewer).
What is the optimum viewing distance for the KMQ prism viewer?
Tags:
3-D books,
any LCD,
distance,
kmq,
open hardware,
openKMQ,
optimum,
over/under,
S3D,
SSG1b
Mittwoch, 13. Oktober 2010
New low cost 3-D mirror based viewer (over/under *and* side-by-side)
(Image by Berezin.com)
I have not tried it yet, but it looks like a low cost alternative to the already reviewed jpsOneEye, I strongly recommend.
(Image by Berezin.com)
I have not tried it yet, but it looks like a low cost alternative to the already reviewed jpsOneEye, I strongly recommend.
New low cost 3-D mirror based viewer (over/under *and* side-by-side)
Donnerstag, 9. September 2010
How to create 3-D videos in the openKMQ, open over/under layout
If you want to also convert your private videos to openKMQ layout or want to upload them to vimeo, please use this layout.

Such a video plays on any LCD in fullscreen mode (VCL can play on portrait mode displays), even iMacs, iBooks, iPad, iPod Touch 4, iPhone 4. For the 960x640 displays of the 4th gen iPhone/iPodtouch you need a special viewer not yet released.
UPDATE for vimeo content:
If you upload a video 768px wide, vimeo ignores the height and assumes it's an SD european clip that needs non square pixel treatment. Fair enough, but this cripples XGA portrait mode clips optimized for iPad use.
And to achieve HD quality bandwidth, a video needs 1280px width or wider. This sucks as well. Again, vimeo ignores the height.
So if you want your clip to be watched on vimeo including iPad users, please use a slighty smaller res of 764x1020 and encourage your viewers to download the original video for optimal local play or import to the iPad Photos App.
My new free conversion tool trueColor3D will automatically take care of that, from version 0.92 on.
Such a video plays on any LCD in fullscreen mode (VCL can play on portrait mode displays), even iMacs, iBooks, iPad, iPod Touch 4, iPhone 4. For the 960x640 displays of the 4th gen iPhone/iPodtouch you need a special viewer not yet released.
UPDATE for vimeo content:
If you upload a video 768px wide, vimeo ignores the height and assumes it's an SD european clip that needs non square pixel treatment. Fair enough, but this cripples XGA portrait mode clips optimized for iPad use.
And to achieve HD quality bandwidth, a video needs 1280px width or wider. This sucks as well. Again, vimeo ignores the height.
So if you want your clip to be watched on vimeo including iPad users, please use a slighty smaller res of 764x1020 and encourage your viewers to download the original video for optimal local play or import to the iPad Photos App.
My new free conversion tool trueColor3D will automatically take care of that, from version 0.92 on.
If you want to also convert your private videos to openKMQ layout or want to upload them to vimeo, please use this layout.

Such a video plays on any LCD in fullscreen mode (VCL can play on portrait mode displays), even iMacs, iBooks, iPad, iPod Touch 4, iPhone 4. For the 960x640 displays of the 4th gen iPhone/iPodtouch you need a special viewer not yet released.
UPDATE for vimeo content:
If you upload a video 768px wide, vimeo ignores the height and assumes it's an SD european clip that needs non square pixel treatment. Fair enough, but this cripples XGA portrait mode clips optimized for iPad use.
And to achieve HD quality bandwidth, a video needs 1280px width or wider. This sucks as well. Again, vimeo ignores the height.
So if you want your clip to be watched on vimeo including iPad users, please use a slighty smaller res of 764x1020 and encourage your viewers to download the original video for optimal local play or import to the iPad Photos App.
My new free conversion tool trueColor3D will automatically take care of that, from version 0.92 on.
Such a video plays on any LCD in fullscreen mode (VCL can play on portrait mode displays), even iMacs, iBooks, iPad, iPod Touch 4, iPhone 4. For the 960x640 displays of the 4th gen iPhone/iPodtouch you need a special viewer not yet released.
UPDATE for vimeo content:
If you upload a video 768px wide, vimeo ignores the height and assumes it's an SD european clip that needs non square pixel treatment. Fair enough, but this cripples XGA portrait mode clips optimized for iPad use.
And to achieve HD quality bandwidth, a video needs 1280px width or wider. This sucks as well. Again, vimeo ignores the height.
So if you want your clip to be watched on vimeo including iPad users, please use a slighty smaller res of 764x1020 and encourage your viewers to download the original video for optimal local play or import to the iPad Photos App.
My new free conversion tool trueColor3D will automatically take care of that, from version 0.92 on.
How to create 3-D videos in the openKMQ, open over/under layout
Tags:
3-D,
3D movie,
iBook,
iMac,
ipad,
ipad3-D,
ipad3D,
iPhone,
iPod touch,
jpsOneEye,
kmq,
openKMQ,
openKMQ video,
over/under,
private 3D,
stereoscopic,
vimeo 3D,
vimeo3D
Freitag, 8. Mai 2009
Alternative over/under viewing device
Mathew Orman from polish/american Tyrell Innovations Inc. has designed and markets a viewing device that uses adjustable first surface mirrors.
This overcomes two flaws of the KMQ viewer : its fixed spreading angle and its prismatic effect.
Find more here:
http://tyrell-innovations-usa.com/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=32&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=4
This overcomes two flaws of the KMQ viewer : its fixed spreading angle and its prismatic effect.
Find more here:
http://tyrell-innovations-usa.com/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=32&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=4
Mathew Orman from polish/american Tyrell Innovations Inc. has designed and markets a viewing device that uses adjustable first surface mirrors.
This overcomes two flaws of the KMQ viewer : its fixed spreading angle and its prismatic effect.
Find more here:
http://tyrell-innovations-usa.com/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=32&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=4
This overcomes two flaws of the KMQ viewer : its fixed spreading angle and its prismatic effect.
Find more here:
http://tyrell-innovations-usa.com/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=32&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=4
Alternative over/under viewing device
FlipStereo.net - a new S3D web service
FlipStereo.net the new web service that can take almost any stereo image on the web and presents it the way you like, also supports over/under (KMQ/jpsOneEye) viewing.
FlipStereo.net the new web service that can take almost any stereo image on the web and presents it the way you like, also supports over/under (KMQ/jpsOneEye) viewing.
FlipStereo.net - a new S3D web service
Tags:
openKMQ,
over/under,
S3D,
stereo viewing,
stereoscopic,
web2.0
Donnerstag, 2. April 2009
New Web2.0 Stereo gallery also supports openKMQ (over/under) viewing - http://www.flipstereo.net
Find a beta-version running here :
http://www.flipstereo.net/site/viewer?url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/turbguy/3318579108/in/pool-stereo&mx=738&swi=&im=leftright&sbase=0&sep=0&zoom=1.4&om=overunder&mon=1&my=304
This is what the developers told me :
>>>>>
I have not yet added instructions in the wiki for using it. so here is some basic instruction:
1. In the "Image" secition you should see a grey box.
2. the picture may take some time to load. till then you will see only 2 white boxes.
3. there is light grey bar on top of the image section. Place you mouse over this.
a tool box area should slowly appear. click the "Fullscreen" button on the top right corner.
4. the whole flash content should appear fullscreen on your screen.
5. you can change "separation" to bring the images closer ( or further) in any mode.
6. I have tried it with the glasses and separation has to be set just right for my screen.
http://www.flipstereo.net/site/viewer?url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/turbguy/3318579108/in/pool-stereo&mx=738&swi=&im=leftright&sbase=0&sep=0&zoom=1.4&om=overunder&mon=1&my=304
This is what the developers told me :
>>>>>
I have not yet added instructions in the wiki for using it. so here is some basic instruction:
1. In the "Image" secition you should see a grey box.
2. the picture may take some time to load. till then you will see only 2 white boxes.
3. there is light grey bar on top of the image section. Place you mouse over this.
a tool box area should slowly appear. click the "Fullscreen" button on the top right corner.
4. the whole flash content should appear fullscreen on your screen.
5. you can change "separation" to bring the images closer ( or further) in any mode.
6. I have tried it with the glasses and separation has to be set just right for my screen.
Find a beta-version running here :
http://www.flipstereo.net/site/viewer?url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/turbguy/3318579108/in/pool-stereo&mx=738&swi=&im=leftright&sbase=0&sep=0&zoom=1.4&om=overunder&mon=1&my=304
This is what the developers told me :
>>>>>
I have not yet added instructions in the wiki for using it. so here is some basic instruction:
1. In the "Image" secition you should see a grey box.
2. the picture may take some time to load. till then you will see only 2 white boxes.
3. there is light grey bar on top of the image section. Place you mouse over this.
a tool box area should slowly appear. click the "Fullscreen" button on the top right corner.
4. the whole flash content should appear fullscreen on your screen.
5. you can change "separation" to bring the images closer ( or further) in any mode.
6. I have tried it with the glasses and separation has to be set just right for my screen.
http://www.flipstereo.net/site/viewer?url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/turbguy/3318579108/in/pool-stereo&mx=738&swi=&im=leftright&sbase=0&sep=0&zoom=1.4&om=overunder&mon=1&my=304
This is what the developers told me :
>>>>>
I have not yet added instructions in the wiki for using it. so here is some basic instruction:
1. In the "Image" secition you should see a grey box.
2. the picture may take some time to load. till then you will see only 2 white boxes.
3. there is light grey bar on top of the image section. Place you mouse over this.
a tool box area should slowly appear. click the "Fullscreen" button on the top right corner.
4. the whole flash content should appear fullscreen on your screen.
5. you can change "separation" to bring the images closer ( or further) in any mode.
6. I have tried it with the glasses and separation has to be set just right for my screen.
New Web2.0 Stereo gallery also supports openKMQ (over/under) viewing - http://www.flipstereo.net
Tags:
flickr,
KMQ viewer,
openKMQ,
over/under,
stereo viewing,
stereoscopic,
web2.0
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